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Beautiful Welsh Section A, 11 years old. This is a genuine, sad sale, so finding her the right home is my absolute priority. She is a beautiful strawberry roan with a kind nature. She is green in her ridden work and is currently walking and trotting away nicely, so she would suit someone looking to continue her education.
She is also happy to be a lead rein pony and enjoys getting out and about. She can be a little nervous when meeting new people but once she trusts you she is a lovely pony who forms a strong bond with her person. She likes her own space when it comes to other horses but will happily turn out with others, she is perfect to catch enjoys being groomed, is good for the vet, and good for the farrier, although she appreciates a little reassurance to begin with.
She is looking for a patient, knowledgeable home that will continue to build her confidence and bring out the best in her. She has so much to offer and deserves a loving family home.Will come with full tack and rugs.
Price: £2,000 no offers
Location: Preston, Lancashire
Contact: Morgan
Georgie Snow, 15.1hh pacing gelding 8 years old. This horse has been there seen it and done it, has raced, won competitions and been on every drive in the country, will do 35mph or walk.
Will stand all day at traffic lights, goes in open bridal. Perfect to shoe, clip, load, dentist. He is up and fit now ready to go. Any inspection or vet check welcome. Loads of videos, we also have his passport.
Text messages or private numbers will not be answered. If you're interested call the number.
Video Link: https://youtu.be/XFY99mb1DHQ
Price: £3,500 £3,000
Location: TW19, South East
Contact: Jw
Here with have a very sad sale, unfortunately due to a recent health issue with my mobility I am having to come to the sad realisation that I need to re Home my boy. Please meet my JB, he is 5 years old and is ride and drive. He is roughly 12.1-2hh (I've not measured).
He as just done the road to Appleby and back in the wagon and cart, he is such a calm boy but is still intact,( this hasn't bothered me or him , as he only has one ball). He will stand all day long to be groomed and pampered. He will give you kisses, stand for farrier and is no problem having his teeth done. Loads in the box well, tethers well, stables well.
I have plenty of videos and pictures of this handsome boy, a good home is essential and a must. He was wormed 3 week ago. Collection only from Bradford. I will swap for a van.
Price: £1,950 £1,750 ovno
Location: Bradford
Contact: Charlie
Luddington Hi Beyond Compare, registered Hackney. Can be broken to ride as well. I've driven him single and pair, he's also been driven single in 4 wheelers when he was broken, has been driven in heavy traffic.
Soxs is looking for a 5 star home that will be fully vetted by me. Not a novice drive only because he's a not been to many parties yet I can see him going far at HDT or showing in the right hands, has a beautiful soft mouth.
He's never been trained to step so does in the right outline not upside down. Up to date with vaccinations teeth and fully shod. Ready to go.
Video Link: https://youtu.be/bF-3rA-GBrw
Price: £4,500 £3,000 ovno
Location: Bridgnorth
Contact: Julie
Superb Welsh cob gelding 14hh, 7 years. Sad sale due to ill health and no time to bring him on. He was sent away for professional schooling at the end of last year and was doing really well, he has started jumping and loves it.
He is still green and needs someone with the experience and the time to continue his education. He is very intelligent and works well using Pirelli and Natural Horsemanship skills. He has stunning movement and would do well in any show ring.
Has been transported in horse box and trailer. Bare foot, good with farrier. WPCS registered. Phone/ WhatsApp for more info. Nr Caernarfon, North Wales.
Price: £4,500
Location: Caernarfon
Contact: Victoria
Boulonnais mare 17.3hh, 6 years old. Lightly backed at 4, produced a beautiful filly foal last year.
Price: £7,500 ovno
Location: Walsall
Contact: Margaret - T
The complete package! Poppy 13hh, ride and drive cob mare, 5 year old. Passported, microchipped, wormed, feet trimmed. Comes with tack.(saddle, bridle, stirrups, leathers and girth).
Handled daily by a 2 year old. Walks, trots and canters on both reins but is green. Has a lovely floaty expressive trot and will definitely turn heads showing. Hacks alone or in company.
Would suit as a lead rein pony or trekking pony as well. Leads, loads, ties and is good to do. Lives in or out. Got plenty or videos of her been ridden and driven.
Price: £2,800 ono
Location: West Sussex
Contact: Aysh
6 year old gelded chestnut welsh section B, backed around 4 months ago and has been an absolute pleasure. Hacks alone or in company, loves jumping, he's jumped up to around 65cm as he's not being rushed although showing leaps of potential. Gets along with all horses, never sick or sorry, great for farrier, etc...
Never kicked or bitten, no vices very easy going. A potential kids pony in the future with more miles although right now he needs a small teen to take him out and have fun. Not spooky at all. Great breeding and came from a Welsh showing breeder. Has been out show jumping and arena hires perfect every time doesn't panic in warmups whatsoever. On the ground he's perfect.
He will go far in the right hands, he's got plenty of scope to get him anywhere. Needs a forever family for him to trust as he can be nervous with new people. Any questions or I can send videos!
Price: £4,500 ono
Location: Scarborough North Yorkshire
Contact: Maison
Blue, is a 14.2hh 6 year old stallion that is ride and drive but hasn't done anything for two years as he's been running with mares and foals.
He is very quiet. Blue is good to box and travels well. He's good to wash and tie up. Well worth a look if you're looking for a stallion to run with mares or to put back to work.
No messers or time wasters please. Text messages will not be replied to. Phone calls only. No withheld number please.
Price: £3,500 ono
Location: Swansea
Contact: Andrew
Molly, 15.1hh 11 year old dun cob. I can't say enough good things about my girl she is a pleasure I've done everything and more with her pub rides, beach rides, pleasure rides, you name it we've done it! She's an absolute pleasure to be around, she will stand there all day to be groomed, clipped, shod, teeth done, she's just an easy going girl.
She's been ridden by children! Doesn't buck, rear, nap or anything. Not got a sharp bone in her body! Used by my friend to do mental health therapy she will do everything and anything!
This is a really sad sale for me due to my health so she is sold from the field as I am not fit enough for viewings! Her price reflects that! Any questions please fire away a 5* home only.
Price: £5,000 ono
Location: Essex
Contact: Sally
Big Mac, 3 years old unbroken but very quiet ready to start his education now. Standing at 14.3hh & still bum high.
Very well bred gelding. Passported. Lovely big cob, he's out Diesel mare and Captain Nemo and Nemo is by Bat Man to Cooking on Gas.
Price: £3,500 ovno
Location: Ashington
Contact: Samantha
Smart, 7 year old section D gelding. Lovely all round prospect. A genuine, eye catching 7 year old 15.3hh section D gelding with a fantastic temperament, plenty of presence, and lots of potential. He was produced by a friend as a 5 year old, and he was schooling confidently in all three paces and showed a willing attitude over fences.
I jumped him up to around 70cm at the time, and he always approached his work sensibly with a great attitude. He's a clever horse with a real personality and was always a pleasure to have around. As a typical section D, he has plenty of energy and thrives on regular, consistent work. He is at his best when kept in a routine, but he is rarely silly or rude and has always been a genuine, kind horse to handle and ride.
He has a kind nature, enjoys his work, and has the brains and attitude to progress in the right hands. Schools nicely in all three paces. Has previously jumped 70cm confidently. Intelligent, willing, and full of character. Good to catch farrier.
Price: £5,000 ovno
Location: Kidderminster
Contact: Sian
Stunning stepping mare 12.2hh 5 year old, ride and drive. She has all the mane a cob lover could possibly want.
She's a lovely little mare will make a perfect kids pony. She's a beautiful mare inside and out.
Good to do in all ways, she has never been a problem with anything.
Price: £1,000
Location: Stourbridge
Contact: Joe
Ride and drive gelding pacer 15.1hh, 18 years old but still goes like a 4 year old. I've owned him for 10 years, he's been on all the drives nothing bothers him and he's a very safe horse.
My kids drive him he'll do 5mph or 30mph or jog away quietly. My 11 year old daughter rides him and has just ridden him all over Appleby.
I'm only selling him as I'm going through a divorce and have nowhere to keep him. He'll only be sold to a good home. I've got loads of photos and videos of him I can send over on WhatsApp. No swaps or stupid offers.
Price: £1,800 £1,700 ovno
Location: Carlisle Cumbria
Contact: Trevor
Siennas Firefly, 6 year old registered stagbi pacer mare, 15.2hh ride and driving mare. Done alot more driving than ridding.
Selling through not fault of her own, it's just we haven't got the time she needs.
Price: £2,500 £1,800 ovno
Location: Cardiff
Contact: James
Broodmare only, 15 year old Weatherby's passported Thoroughbred mare, standing approximately 16.1–16.2hh.
A proven broodmare who has produced several quality foals, including stock that have gone on to be successful winners. She currently has a lovely mare out winning under Dan Skelton.
Please note: she is being sold strictly as a broodmare. She has spent the last 10 years breeding and is not being sold as a ridden horse, so no ridden homes please. Please message for more information.
Price: £950 £850 ono
Location: Pewsey
Contact: Jo
Mischief 2 year old dapple grey cob colt. Lloyds breeding.
Price: £2,000
Location: Devon
Contact: Chantelle
TGCA registered mini cob, a lovely 2-year-old mini cob gelding. Well handled with a friendly temperament, lives in or out. Would thrive from a 1-1 home.
A lovely youngster with plenty of potential. He would make a great kids pony in the future, driving, or companion. 5 star home wanted.
Please message for more information. I can help with delivery.
Price: £1,000 £700 offers
Location: Coventry
Contact: Charlotte
12.2hh Doncaster bred mare, 7 years old. Bred some beautiful coloured fillies, left empty this year.
Price: £1,500 ono
Location: Middlesex
Contact: L
4 year old heavy buckskin mare with Diesel bred colt at foot. Father LK Steptoe, son of Diesel in picture.
Price: £2,000 ono
Location: Middlesex
Contact: L
Very lovely and adorable mare and filly foal, best of class and quality. The mum is grey with red spots which is very unusual, she's 7 years old. Very quiet to catch, lead, load and trim. Very good nature.
Filly foal is a lovely big fine grey filly, 6 months old, off a spotty stallion. Loads of feather.
Can be sold as a pair or individually. Very, very cheap pair for the money, all in best condition.
Price: £1,350
Location: Kent
Contact: Bill
Heavy blue blagdon filly 13hh good quality filly, 2 years old. Best of legs, no lumps, bumps or itch.
Easy going, pick all feet up. Please no withheld numbers or texts. Px welcome.
Price: £1,000 ovno
Location: RH6, South East
Contact: Danny
12.3hh bay and white heavy legged pony mare and filly foal going blue and white. Easy to catch, handle, load, trim, etc...
No lumps or bumps, no itch. Quality little pair, foal is 3 months old, mare is 7.
Px welcome. Please no withheld numbers or texts, can deliver if not too far.
Price: £1,250 ono
Location: RH6, South East
Contact: Danny
Pokerface, 4 year old gelding - 14.2hh stepping cob. Smart 4 year old gelding by Caption Nemo out of a quality half-bred mare. Standing at 14.2hh with a lovely stamp and presence.
Pokerface is a genuine, kind young horse with a great attitude. He is easy to catch, load and handle, picks all four feet up nicely and is good for the farrier. No vices and no badness.
Would have a deal on stepping half bred or trotter.
Price: £5,500
Location: Stanley
Contact: John
Ghost, a lovely 14.2hh 4 year old Connemara x Appaloosa gelding looking for his forever home. A complete blank canvas with a kind, willing temperament and a fantastic attitude to learning. He has recently been halter broken and has taken everything in his stride, proving to be very trusting, sensible and eager to please.
He has a lovely nature, enjoys human interaction and is quick to build confidence with his handler. With his attractive looks and sensible mind, he has all the ingredients to make a fantastic all-rounder, family horse, riding club horse or future competition prospect. 14.2hh Connemara x Appaloosa. Recently halter broken. Kind, willing and trusting temperament. Blank canvas ready to continue his education.
Good home is a priority. This is a wonderful opportunity to put your own stamp on a quality youngster and produce him your way. Please message for more information, photos and videos. Serious enquiries only.
Price: £3,750 ono
Location: Eastleigh
Contact: Danny
Dunbeggan Bobby, 5 year old Irish draft x ISH gelding. Recorded breeding (see photo).
Well mannered boy, good in and out of the stable, to catch, good with farrier, loads and travels very well, ready to start his education.
Sire Dunbeggan Grey Mist, Dam Dunbeggan Coevers Lady, this boy will mature to 15.2hh or 15.3hh. A quality youngster, for sale through no fault of his own
Price: £4,500
Location: Preston
Contact: Glen
Nantyrast Abigail (Poppy), Welsh section A yearling. Sold from the field. Needs more handling but had no time. Been stabled too. Up to date with Tetanus, had farrier last week.
Turns out with mares and geldings. Had children around her. This little filly needs her own person and not to be sat in field. She walks on the lead but haven't been able to trot her on my own. Based Herefordshire.
Price: £300 ovno
Location: Leominster Herefordshire
Contact: Kelly
Proper colt for sale, he's 2 years old and already standing at 15hh and he will make 15.3hh. He's top class, will make a super horse in future.
Very good temperament, 100% to do anything with. Pm for more information, transport can be organised, reasonable price.
Price: POA
Location: Ireland Limerick
Contact: John - T
2 Year old Sancler bred chestnut traditional filly. Currently standing around 14hh. This filly is pure quality and has a bright future she would go far in the showing world or would equally be an asset to any breeding program as a broodmare.
She is completely unspoilt and unmessed, lives out, she will happily walk up to you in the field. She's very quiet and well mannered, she's a very heavy filly just currently bog burnt through being out all winter.
Please no time wasters, only call or message if your wanting to buy, no unknow numbers.
Price: £2,250
Location: West Midlands
Contact: Henry
Selection of Cloigen sec B palomino foals colts & fillies available. Born mid May/ End of June.
All by the young stallion De La Ethos who is a son of Spring Classic Spellbound and out of Westaire Sienna. With his first crop of foals on the ground and is throwing great potential.
Message for more information.
Price: £800 ono
Location: Llandysul
Contact: Chloe
1. Stunning dun Registered Welsh C colt 14 month, to make 13.2hh, definitely got the look at me factor. Up to date with worming, jabs and trimming. Ties on, stands to be bathed, picks all four feet up, wears rugs no probs, respects electric fencing. Only for sale as used as companion and no longer need.
2. Beautiful bay registered Hackney colt 14 months, to make 12hh, got the action and the looks. Up to date with worming and jabs, ties on, stands to be bathed, picks all 4 feet up, wears rugs no probs and respects electric fencing. Only for sale through no fault of his own.
Don't hesitate to message or call for any more info.
Price: £1,500 £1,300 ono each
Location: Newport Iow
Contact: Julie
3 year old black gelding 15.1hh now, 4 white socks well matched. Very quiet horse can do anything with him. Passport.
Photos don't do him justice, will be easily be broken with the right people.
Price: £3,500 £3,400 ono
Location: Birmingham
Contact: Alan
Chance, 17hh 16 years young. Very well bred papered warmblood mare. Very sweet natured on the ground. Has been a fabulous riding and jumping mare. She has been out of work the last 3 years. Had a foal last year, is empty this year.
Change of circumstances, decide to sell. If she's not sold she will be brought back in to work but obviously not going be the same money. Grab yourself a bargain.
Up to date with vaccinations, worming and had her feet trimmed. Call for more information.
Price: £1,750 £1,300 ono
Location: Bedford
Contact: Henry
14.3hh registered Welsh D gelding, 13 years old. He would be a nice project for someone. We were told he has been ridden in the past, but we haven't tried him.
He is easy to handle in and out of the stable but will need work ridden. He does lunge well. I am looking for a good home for him as he's a nice horse.
Price: £1,200 £900 ono
Location: Swanley
Contact: Dan - T
Very good coming 3 year old filly, stands around 14hh now, she very well bred. She's off a very good moving Dales mare, back to young Diesel horse in the last photo.
Filly will make a very good cob she ready to start her education. She is a good mover now with only riding shoes on.
You couldn't breed her for the money.
Price: £1,850 £1,650 ono
Location: Loughton Essex
Contact: Paul
Professor is a handsome 16hh, 10-year-old registered Standardbred who has recently retired from a successful harness racing career with us after many enjoyable years on the track. We are now looking for his forever ridden home. I personally broke him to ride, and he has been an absolute pleasure from day one. He is a true gentleman with a fantastic temperament, eager to please and genuinely enjoys his work.
Professor is just as sensible and well-mannered in company as he is on his own. He is forward yet reliable, and about as close to bombproof as a horse can be. Under saddle, he has never paced for me, and when racing he only paced when hobbled, making him a straightforward and enjoyable ride.
This is an incredibly sad sale, but with other young horses coming into racing, I simply cannot give him the time and attention he deserves to carry on his ridden career. A genuine 5* home is essential for this very special boy. Inc a saddle company saddle I've just had fitted to him.
Price: £2,800 £2,300 ovno
Location: Accrington
Contact: W
John is a gypsy cob, he would make a valuable addition to a knowledgeable home. He is broken to ride and drive, and would make a lovely child's pony or adults.
He's over 3, rising 4 years old, well educated for his age with a sensible and kind temperament. John stands at 14hh and is bum high, he will make around 14.1-14.2hh possibly pushing a tad more. He is a true sturdy and chunky cob.
John is up to date with his wormers, dentist, passported and microchipped. John has been hacked and driven in traffic, roads and near machinery, and does well. Open to viewings, vettings and rides or drives.
Price: £3,000 £2,800 no offers
Location: Rainham, Essex
Contact: Shirley
Millie, rising 3 year old cob filly. Rising 3 in August, passported and up to date with worming. Currently 13hh (measured on stick) expected to mature at 13.2hh. A proper traditional cob type - super heavy with loads of silky feather. Black in colour with four white socks and slowly greying out. She's bred that way and there's already plenty grey coming through.
Well handled with a lovely nature, she'd make an excellent prospect for a broodmare. Bred from Ted (previously owned by Danny Russell) 15hh palomino and a 14.2hh black & white mare, both good quality cobs.
Video shown is from September last year, she's changed a fair bit since then (more grey coming through) so please see recent photos of how she looks now. No part exchanges. Serious enquiries only.
Video Link: https://youtu.be/ABtUSVCntSM
Price: £2,500 £2,225
Location: County Durham
Contact: Paul
Cupcake, Small child's pony 10.2hh, ride & drive mare. very quiet and great with children. Not sharp or silly very placid & laid back.
Shetland cross cob. More whoa then go with 0 quirkiness. Ideal for a tiny Tot or a child who is on lead rein gaining confidence.
Can deliver at cost.
Price: £2,500 ono
Location: Epping
Contact: Lily - T
This gorgeous mare was imported in March as an untouched youngster who had been left to mature. She has naturally elastic movement, fantastic breeding by Ferguson x Iconic B and a lovely calm nature. She has come on leaps and bounds and is becoming a very confident enjoyable youngster who is ready to continue her education. She ties up, leads with other horses, stands to be hosed, has had full tack on and just been started on the lunge.
She can be a bit of a mare at times when asked something new but very quick to learn and change her attitude. Working on picking up her back feet but is great with the fronts. Has had wolf teeth recently removed and is up to date with worming and vaccinations. She turns out in a mixed herd and is no bother to catch or in anyway nasty to the other horses.
Very green but will be a fantastic prospect to produce in the right hands. Will only go to an experienced home.
Price: £5,250 ono
Location: Newcastle Upon Tyne
Contact: Eve
15.2hh cob mare broken and riding, 5 years old. Very nice type, suit any rider.
Ring for more info or WhatsApp for video.
Price: £6,000
Location: Ireland
Contact: Kp
Snowflake, Class 1 Connemara project, 14 year old mare - full Connemara breeding.
Has been ridden in past but has also been breeding foals, not in foal this time. Sold as project.
Scottish borders, delivery can be arranged.
Price: £1,200
- Sold
Arnie 2 year old cob gelding. A lovely 2 year old gelding with a genuinely kind and easy temperament. He is well-handled, friendly, and enjoys attention, making him a pleasure to have around. I bred him myself out of my sec D x cob mare back to a heavy black stallion.
He has good manners for his age and is still young enough for someone to put their own stamp on. With his willing attitude and kind nature, he has all the ingredients to make a fantastic child's riding horse. A great opportunity for someone looking for a quality youngster to produce. He is standing 13hh now he is to make 13.2/3hh.
Please get in touch for more information, photos, or to arrange a viewing.
Price: £1,200 ono
Location: Stockport
Contact: Cian
Rosie, 13.2hh half bred mare 2018 bred. Ride and drive would suit a young adult to ride but driving she can be strong. Can run at 25/26mph can push to 27 when fit.
She's a perfect all rounder mare, been there done it type done lots of beach days, fun rides/drives, been on plenty of in company drives will ride alone or with a group, can pop a jump or 2.
She's mainly been used for driving she is bombproof doesn't care in the heaviest of traffic. WhatsApp for vids.
Price: £4,000 ono
Location: Stockport
Contact: Cian
Lewis, Welsh section D colt. Lewis is a lovely 2 year old Welsh section D colt to make 15hh, with a fantastic temperament and a kind nature. He is very good to handle, well-mannered, and safe around people, making him a pleasure to have on the yard. He stands quietly to be groomed, leads well, and is easy to catch and handle.
Lewis has plenty of quality and presence, with the potential to make a superb ridden horse, driving horse, or future stallion in the right home. He is still young, so he's ready for someone to continue his education and bring out his full potential.
A genuine, well-handled youngster looking for a knowledgeable, loving home. Please message for more information, photos, or to arrange a viewing.
Price: £2,500 ono
- Sold
Sold by Dragon Driving
Mikey, traditional heavy Irish cob, weight carrier 7 years old 15.2hh approx gelding. Ride and drive, great all rounder that's happy to plod down the busiest of roads past all traffic or will xc, sj, school, do some dressage or showing.
Vaccinated, shod, wormed. Lovely heavy weight cob that also looks the part. Easy to catch and happy to live in or out, also goes in mixed herd. Ideal for trekking, common riding, riding school work.
Based Scottish borders. Delivery can be arranged throughout the UK.
Price: £5,000
- Sold
Onyx, what a gentleman, anyone's ride or drive. Absolute kind, sweet big boy. 9 year old Friesian, on Irish passport. 16hh approx. ride and drive, unbelievably smart.
Previously used for funerals and weddings - very good driver. Rides extremely sensibly and great in the heaviest of traffic, stands to be mounted, walk, trot, canter, pops a jump. Safe and steady but looks fabulous.
Based Scottish borders. No withheld number will be answered. Delivery can be arranged throughout the UK.
Price: £6,000 ono
- Sold
15.2hh bay mare, easy to catch, handle, load, trim, etc... No itch, lumps or bumps. New set of shoes.
Good quality mare, not in foal. Video of her riding. Good marking, safe, sound.
Px welcome, please no withheld numbers or texts.
Price: £1,200 ono
- Sold
Sold by Dragon Driving
Bobby 3 years old Clydesdale X gelding. Bay with four whites. 14.2hh to make 15hh. Passported.
Has been broken to drive just needs miles putting on him. Good in traffic, lorries, buses and tractors. Good to box and shoe.
For sale due to ill health. Contact me if you want to see a video of him driving.
Video Link: https://youtu.be/KfUM2kBgR7c
Price: £3,500 ono
Location: Wakefield
Contact: Chris
14hh 8 year old piebald mare inc tack - fantastic hack with potential. Please read until the end! Bombproof as you can get out hacking & is sound in even the heaviest of traffic, any ones ride. Hacks alone or in company. Still green in school but coming on well with her 12 year old rider.
Been to pleasure rides, pops a small jump, never bucked or reared whist rode. Great on the lead rein. Barefoot, good load, travel, farrier, needs sedation for clipping, possibly dentist as fidgets up to date with everything. Brought for 61 year old whom has trouble mounting & has arthritis in their knees, she will stand then fidget at a mounting block at home & there is no way she will stand for her to get on whilst out if they have to get off.
Intelligent mare, which has escalated that she can no longer get on at home also. 12 year old & another small adult have no problems. Easy fix for someone. Can sometimes pull mareish faces when being tacked up. Comes with fitted saddle and a bridle.
Price: £4,250 ono
Location: Chesterfield
Contact: Elaine
